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Design Seminar

Dear Kay,
I’m in a fever, and the only prescription is more KNITTING. A fambly member this Thanksgiving admired this trio of Jo Sharp DK enough that she WINS IT. I’m going to knit her a sweater, little does she know. A couple of questions:
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1. Will this sweater, the unabashedly stripey Punch from Rowan 27, work using only three colors instead of five?
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2. Here’s the pullover version of Punch. I like the arm stripe pattern of the first Punch but I like the pulloverness of this one. Should I throw in a fourth color, this buttery Lightweight DK? Or should it remain a semi-murky set of three colors? I don’t have a fifth color on hand that would tie in, and I am working under strict Stash Reduction Guidelines.
So: I’m thinking this should be a pullover Punch version 2, but with color vibe and sleeve stripes of Punch version 1. But with three or four colors?
Puhlease help. I’m crippled with indecision. I need a pigeon to come flap at me.
Love,
Ann
PS The colors in the popup under “this trio” are truer than the other pix. The three shades are pretty distinct, I think.

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23 Comments

23 Comments

  1. Dear Ann–
    1. I agree about doing it as a pullover (easier, and remember that one can lose one’s passion for a project requested by a fambly member, around the time one starts the buttonhole band). I also agree that the blockier stripes are better–using a different width of stripe on the arm is too busy for me–completely changes the look of the sweater from classic to Old Navyish.
    2. I have no idea about adding a 4th color. I often like to do odd numbers of colors. So I’d do 3 or 5. I’d probably do 5 to avoid unforeseen problems with the pattern. Remember dear, that sometimes we have to buy yarn to reduce stash. This is a well-established principle of Keynesian economics. Ask your husband. There is a tipping point at which it is no longer good Stash Reduction Policy to buy more yarn. But I think buying one more color would definitely result in a Net Stash Reduction.
    3. I love these neutraly colours together. More than the sum of their parts. I predict you will want to keep it.
    xox Kay

  2. P.S. Does your fambly member understand that she has to model the thing with hot pants?
    Just wondering.

  3. I’m with Kay, all the way. (But why not the cardigan?) Long ago and far away (well, not that far away, actually), when I worked part-time at The Tyler House at Durham’s Northgate Mall, my manager taught me the principal of grouping items in odd numbers. I think you could do it with just the three colors, but I am not a Rowanette (having knit Smooch only) Who Knows. Good luck!

  4. Like Kay and Maggi, I tend to think 3 colors rather than 4 – but what about replacing one of the first three colors (say the third in the top picture) with the buttery Lightweight DK? Of course, if this makes things more confusing rather than less, ignore what I’ve just said.

  5. I go along with the odd number theory – something to do with that Italian chap Fibonacci? – but think the two greeny ones are too close in tone – unless of course it is the colours on the monitor. They would not show up enough when put next to each other? So I would go up to 5, a mid-navy – not too dark? And Kay’s theory of needing sometimes to Buy More Yarn in order to get a Stash Reduction is spot on……

  6. My two cents – go for the three colors you have on hand. I like those colors and think you’ll be able to make it work with the pattern. Best of luck! :-)

  7. I’m with Jill on the two greeny ones being too close. Go with blue, either green, butter. If you do the smaller stripes on the sleeves, I will have to kill you.

  8. I meant Katie, sorry.

  9. like the pullover too – i like the 5 stripes but think 3 would work too. i think the even number would make it look a little off but i am not sure why. just a hunch.
    i found a cute washcloth pattern that i am going to use with my hand-made soaps for presents for next year – an idea for your soap bars too. it’s on my never ending knitting list so it may not happen for awhile

  10. flap, flap… use 3 colours or 5. You never plant plants in even numbers.. so I suspect same theory with knitting

  11. Oh! For what it’s worth, that is one of my favorite sweaters in this Rowan mag. I also prefer the pullover version, but with a different stripe action on the sleeves. Definitely go for the pullover with the sleeves of the cardi. And 3 colors, the ones in the top photo, would go superbly. Lucky, lucky recipient. Fly away, pigeon, fly away!

  12. ann —
    my two cents…you need more than the three colours you have. my take on the colour scheme is that it goes in order of the colours of the rainbow, you know, the whole “roybiv” thing. in fact, it is what gives the sweater its colour punch. bottom line, i would go with five colours, and substitute one of the similar colours you have with another more vibrant colour. does that help? the only issue i have with this sweater is the model. is it me, or does she look like either a vulcan or yodo? meow!

  13. Heh. Hot pants, Vulcan; ears, Yoda. I cast my vote with the 5 colors approach. Or, perhaps, two repeats of the three colors in a row?

  14. OK, y’all–Thankyouverymuch for weighing in. I am mighty grateful for such worldwide expertise.
    I feel like the tribe has voted, but the tribe is split.
    I’m hearing interest in my ponying up and making this the true five-color garment it was meant to be.
    There’s some interest in doing it in three colors, not four, and a general preference for all things odd. Which pleases me to no end, being a fan of oddity myself!
    And there’s concern that two of my shades are too close. I think they’re distinct enough–if you look at the swatch I did, the lightest shade is actually pretty far up the scale. But I agree: it’s not ideal.
    I’m hearing yes: pullover. No: small stripes on sleeves.
    My conclusion: I’m going to try to do this in three shades to preserve the illusion that I am stashbusting, and I’ll repeat the two darker colors at the top of the sweater in reverse order. Dark/medium/light/medium/dark. My recipient is unbusty enough that having this optical illusion–a light stripe right across the bazooms–should be a gift rather than the busty burden it would be for me. If things look skeevy, I’ll bite the bullet and buy yarn. I hate that, you know.
    Thanks again, everybody!

  15. PS The fourth shade, the buttery color, is Lightweight DK, which has an ever-so-slightly different texture and twist from the Jo Sharp, which is a little tighter and smoother. The other three are all Jo Sharp, so they’re friends and everything. That’s one reason I’m loathe to add the LDK to the mix.

  16. PSS As for that model, I’m guessing iron-poor blood is a factor.

  17. Having actually looked at the swatch, I take back everything I said – I think your end choice is the right one.

  18. Ann
    I like your idea of reversing the stripe colours – that should work well and keeps with the odd numbers & you won’t have any worries about possible issues of iincluding another yarn type.
    You’ve got to be speedy to get this done for christmas though!
    Kay – thanks for all the info concerning the log cabin quilt-blankie. I’ll let you know what I choose, but not sure that I’m going to use Elan – the bargain price might be negated by the shipping costs to the UK. I do feel a trip to my not-so-LYS coming on though!
    Jo
    xxx

  19. Gads, now I just have to get Rowan 27. I’ve long admired this book, but mostly the sweaters on the other models, so I had to chuckle at Lis’s comment! For all you stash-busters/yarn dieters out there, is not buying knitting books part of the diet? That’s my real weakness.

  20. Jo–You are the Mason-Dixon Bargain Shopper of the Week! Thrilled that you are taking this Log Cabin project so to heart. Patons Grace (a mercerized twin of Rowan Glace)is one of my favorite yarns–every bit as nice and half the price at our local fabric discount store. When Lis bought some one time, the owner said, ‘You always buy the good stuff.’ High praise indeed.
    Julie–I speak for Ann and myself when I say that books should never be included in any self-imposed yarn-buying restrictions. Books are An Investment. They are like cash in the mattress. As decoration, they let visitors know that The People Who Live Here Don’t Watch TV (All The Time). Plus you can knit sweaters from them.
    xox Kay

  21. I am too lazy to look up your real e-mail address or to locate the one working phone in the house–I have a fairly fine stash of Jo Sharp. Want some? I have taken to felting it, as a drastic stash reduction measure. Feel free to rummage and pilfer.
    Robin

  22. Robin! I like the selflessness of me coming to “help” you cut into your Jo Sharp stash. You do know, of course, that you are the one who egged me on to purchase the Jo Sharp I’m using for that stripey sweater. Enabler!
    If I get to the fourth stripe and find that I really, really do need to add colors, I may come see you and swap you something so that we preserve the perfection of our stash levels. Thanks SO much for giving me the chance to be so magnanimous.
    x0x0

  23. Why do I feel like it’s zucchini season in Massachusetts and no one wants my deeelicious vegetables? No swapping, just removal.